One Cold Approach Can Close a Ton of Chicks

've been in reverse-engineering mode for the last couple of weeks, thinking of things I've done, recently or in the past, that were solid that guys can use to improve.

One simple thing I used to do way back when I started could make PU ALOT easier for alot of guys.

Picture having to do only ONE cold approach, and in turn getting introduced to a handful of girls for you to have your pick from AND you'll already have good PR thanks to having a girl put in the good word for you. Picture even girls with bfs handing you girls on practically a silver platter...

And its not even complex.

In reality, the technique itself is really simple, but for the most part requires you to have a pretty good grasp on gaming girls in general and having some decent social skills. But even then, I could see this working for even the new guys if they can get #closes.

I call it "stringing" girls.

In essence, its like mini-social circle game, except that you don't have to build your own. You just invade someone else's until you get a few closes, then you start over.

So... you have some cold approach skills. Thats a given seeing as how PU is based mainly around cold approaching. You can approach as many girls as you want, #closing the girls that are even remotely interested in you.

How you run your game doesn't particularly matter. Day game/club game, various methods, etc. doesn't make a difference. I don't recommend(although this just from general experience and not implicitly field tested) to run explicitly direct game. By that I mean, directly implying from the beginning that you want sex from HER. Direct is fine, simple, and straightforward. Thats great. Just tone it down if you're normally VERY direct.

Having the girl interested in you and having a degree of sexual tension present so that she views you as a sexual guy is in my opinion, relevant. And thats simply because I normally can't help but create that tension when I run sets. So if you find yourself with girls with whom you haven't built any sexual tension, if "stringing" isn't working, that may be the first thing you want to start changing.

If she has a boyfriend, just befriend the guy if he's there. If he's not there, who cares. You're not even trying to seduce her. You can even disqualify yourself if you want.

Being a generally sociable guy makes it really simple. You're a fun guy, you enjoy meeting people and hanging out with new friends. So in meeting this girl and running your game, its normal to ask about what she and her friends do for fun. Say they like clubbing, or going to the movies, or whatever. You now have pretense(in her eyes anyway) to see her again.

Pretense: whatever it is her and her friends do for fun.

If you have no common sense at all, that means for you to say something along the lines of "Oh yeah, that sounds like fun. Us and all of your friends should hang out and do that sometime." Structure your #closes in context of meeting her friends(pacing).

You really don't have to have super mack tight game, believe me, lol. As long as she's interested in you, comfortable with you, and remotely attracted to you, this is normal. You aren't even trying to have sex with her. Just hang out with her and her friends which is how most people enter social circles. They just normally don't do it through cold approaches.

Phone game is a cinch... whatever you normally run. Even if its nothing but calling to fluff for 2 minutes before you set up a meet. Converse as you see fit. How ever you structure meeting up, you want it to be based on social events. Either plans that she's already made with her female friends, clubbing, parties that you're hosting or privy to, or other social events that you're going to that she can tag along to and it would make sense to bring her friends.

Simply put, give her logistics that make sense for female friends to be present.

In meeting up with her and her friends, your choice of pursuit is mainly up to you.

Being fun and interesting and entertaining to the group is great.

Try to keep the first girl happy as she is your credibility in her social circle, at least until everyone else likes you.

ALWAYS try to at least disarm the alpha female in any given group. Winning her over will just make it that much easier. Seducing her first will usually net you a few of the other girls on its own as long as she's not framing your interactions as grounds for a relationship.

The girl you approached is likely to see you as just an attractive "friend" and if anything will try to hook you up with a girl that needs a "relationship" the most. You still don't exactly have to let her pick where you start for you, but its probably best that if she does this, you at least don't offend that girl.

Even then, try to watch the group dynamics and how they interact with others and you'll see which girls want sex the most, and you can start there.

I usually just flirt with every girl until I get a feeling for which girls are "open to being closed" and then proceed from there. I also joke and flirt with the first girl about how her friends all want to seduce me and steal me away from her. It usually nets a good laugh, but I guarantee when they have "girl talk", its deciding which one gets dibs on you "first".

I couldn't tell you how they work that out but its random between the girl that met you first, the girl that needs sex the most, the girl that needs a relationship the most, and the alpha of the group. Sometimes those overlap onto one girl. Far as I can tell(even though I've only been through a small few social circles this way) is that alpha(if there is one) gets dibs if she wants to, and if not, it works its way down depending on their own dynamics.

That in and of itself is irrelevant if you want to just choose your own target, but realize for the most part that they will make it easy for you if you can pick up the hints, or harder for you if you give "relationship" girl the idea that you want a relationship.

If in the event that the group splits up after you arrive at a social gathering, take it as an opportunity to run game on a specific chick of your choice. Also, if only ONE girl splits off from the group, then its liable that she's the one that wants you(made evident by creating easy logistics for you to have more a intimate conversation).

If the group splits up and there are any girls in sets of two's, it could be that the girl who wants you most is part of the two set and has her friend there to regulate her BT in order to keep you from escalating so fast.

With all that taken into consideration, you can proceed as you like.

Normal rules come into play: isolate, escalate, close. If closing is logistically impossible, #close, and start on a day2 with her.

Post close game:

This is probably the simplest thing you can do that will make it easy to close another girl in the social circle.

Its called discretion.

But I read from some other PUA a funnier name for it that we're going to enjoy, lol.

"Eat quiet, eat twice".

For the most part, if you go running your mouth about closing one of the girls, you will have practically eliminated both repeated activities with that girl as well as any opportunity with the other girls.

On the other hand...

Its not like they won't already know. So... you need to assume that she has already gone and told the circle by the time you see them again. The rule still applies, so even in assuming they know, you DON'T HAVE TO tell them about it... even if they ask.

And they probably will.

You can usually just laugh it off and change the subject or frame control it away.

"If I did, youd be jealous wouldn't you? Awww, I didn't know you liked me so much. Thats sweet"

or

"Oh NEVER. You know X, she's SUCH a good girl, lol" Exaggerated and humorous.

You get the idea. It shouldn't make you uncomfortable at all, and you don't have to tell anyone squat. At best, its just a test to see how discrete you are so they can partake as well. They don't want a guy whose going to make them socially accountable for sleeping with him. Keep that in mind.

As far as the first close goes, you want to completely blow her away. Make it so good that she'll WANT to go tell all her friends. This is good because now they'll want something great from you like what you gave her. For the most part, make sure you give it as good as logistics allow, lol. If you only have twenty minutes because of crazy logistics, then make it the best 20 minutes of her life, lol. Put it down so she can give you good PR just like the girl you cold approached.


"Stringing" girls is probably "easier" to get good at than cold approaching as long as you have some decent social skills. Be a comfortable, cool, fun guy and let nothing make you uncomfortable, and you could probably limit your cold approaches to ONLY doing this if you wanted.

I really haven't done it in years. It actually gets old. Really. You go through this cycle 3 or 4 times in a couple of months and you'll probably have about 10 closes. Thats more than most guys ever get.

All I have to say is this:

Use your powers for good.

Lol.


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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

Shit test? Please. WTF is a shit test?

A couple of years back, I used to spend time thinking of "How do I pass this damn shit test." Its evident now, guys have the same thought processes I had years ago.

You know the problem with thinking you have to pass a shit test? Its the fact that you place the future of the interaction on actually passing the shit test. You HAVE to have the right answer.

WTF

I'm telling you from experience, its a flawed mentality. Don't think you HAVE to do anything. Girls don't dictate what we do or say. We do whatever we want and if she doesn't like us for who we are, thats her problem.

I wont go through all the advice that I've given and seen guys give when it comes to passing shit tests. Its a moot point. It will lead you nowhere but having to pass more shit tests.

And I'm going somewhere with this, dont worry. I've heard everything from girls.

"I don't have a phone."

"I don't give people my number(but yet there's 20 guys calling her phone everyday)."

"You're such a player."

"You didn't think I was gonna sleep with you, did you?"

"I hate you. Leave me alone and never talk to me again."

"Get away from me."

Lol, everything in the book that a chick could throw at you, I've probably heard. And I dont know how long ago I realized this but, the more emphasis you place on passing shit tests, the more likely it is for you to "fail".

Guys at the top of their game simply no longer know what a shit test is. They dont care. It doesn't even register to me that a girl is shit testing me until hours later when Im playing out the interaction in my head, trying to see what I can learn from.

What am I getting at? The best way to pass EVERY shit test is to care so little about passing them, that you hardly know what a shit test is. Your actions or your mindset should never take away from being comfortable with yourself, being comfortable with women, and being comfortable with being sexual. If you have that, a shit test is nothing, especially when you dont care.

Thats the only explanation I can give for passing those shit tests above.


Two principles my actions are guided by:

1. I know chicks are full of bs for the most part. I barely take them seriously.

2. I simply dont give a damn and for the most part, I do what I want.

Lol.

This leads to, for the most part, me either ignoring the bs that I get from chicks or laughing at them.

Seriously. A girl can tell you, "either you take me out to dinner, or Ill never call you again." Well, you have to options right? Hell no. You can do anything you want to do. You can laugh and say thats cute. You can ask her what she likes more, mcdonalds or burger king. You can say you don't pay for dinner but if she behaves you might buy desert. Shit test that it is, you don't even have acknowledge the fact that its a test if you don't take her seriously and don't even care if you ever talk to her again.

You can do anything you want and have her still like you. Stop worrying so much about passing the test and do what you want. Thats what women honestly want. A guy who can do what he wants, be comfortable with that, and still manage to lead others in the same direction.

For the most part(lol).

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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

Girls chasing you? Dont rely on it at all.

I've been pouring through alot of old stuff I've written up. And by old, I mean, years ago. And I came across something relevant to what Im seeing alot of now.

Guys wanting girls to chase them and trying to build their game around that. And it happens. Occassionally, girls may approach you. And from time to time, yeah, you can get a girl to chase you into bed. But for the most part, girls dont chase until after theyve invested something important in you... like sex.

Relying on women chasing you to get laid is just being too lazy to step up to the plate and lead. Most women NEED to be led. Lead the conversation, lead them to bed, lead them into a relationship, lead them everywhere. Its a fundamental need that most women display because they simply dont have it in them to lead themselves AND be happy, at least for the most part.

Anyway, on the original material.


"Every girl simply isnt going to chase you, no matter how solid your game is, no matter how attracted or comfortable with you she is, no matter how strong your frame is. What I can say from my experience is that IF you can get a girl to chase you, then most of the work is done for you. I'm not just talkin about sex, but that and relationships, and her doing anything she can to keep you from cooking to paying your bills to sucking your penis while you go through your daily activities. And after the point she starts to chase you, it requires very little skill. Just some frame control and the ability to lead.

I think this style of game is very solid in pulling girls that would normally be pushed away by being chased and would respond better to a less direct type of game. This can be remedied by push/pull, maybe not to the same effect, but it still works.

Another thing I have seen is, some girls literally will not chase you if there was a gun to the back of their head. Their form of chasing is equivalent to "God I want him, cant he see it. I went through all of this trouble: to make it so we're alone together; putting on this sexy underwear/not putting on any underwear with this skimpy outfit; got rid of my friends so he can do whatever he wants; throwing him all these signals and saying all of these sexual innuendos etc... WHEN IS HE GOING TO TAKE CHARGE?"

Some girls simply aren't going to lead you to the bedroom. For most of them, its not in their nature or ability. The extent of their "chasing" is simply sitting there putting up as little "resistance" as they think is possible. And this is regardless of ASD. Most girls simply can't take the responsibility of doing things to disarm their ASD, they can't take the responsibility of making the direct move that leads to sex, and they cant take the responsibility for leading and taking the initiative.

Having game that relies on girls doing any of these things is going to severely inconsistent. But having game that is flexible enough to account for these issues regardless of who takes the responsibility of leading or even chasing is going to be very solid. Sometimes she will chase you all the way to the bed, hop on top of you, and take your penis from you. And thats great, some of us dream about every pu going that route. Most of the time though, if a girl is going to chase you, its only going to be to a point. You have to have the insight and ability to know when to stop trying to be chased and start leading directly toward an outcome. And alot of times, the most the girl is going to do is give you green lights at every intersection.

You want some easy consistency, learn to game through any situation where the girl wants to make it easy for you. You want to be good, learn to game through those situations as well as when she's not trying to make it easy for you. Know when to plow through, know when to play it cool.

One last thing, no situation is going to go the exact same as any other. No interaction is going to be you solely leading and her solely following. Solid game usually is not going to be 100% direct and 0% indirect or the other way around for that matter. There is always going to be some balance. Balance between the level of attraction and the level of comfort. Balance between the necessity to lead, and opportunity to let the interaction flow. Balance between having to qualify and having to validate. Whats more important than finding one straightforward way to game is to find a congruent way to game that leaves the interaction in your favor no matter what kind of balance is needed."

When women chase you, take advantage of the situation. When they dont, you step up and make it happen. Theres nothing wrong with, no supplication in, and nothing close to chasing in directing, leading, and pursuing women.

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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

Basics: How much C&F is too much?

Calibration from/and experience will tell you when too much is too much and you don't want to overdo the funny part or the cocky part. What makes it so difficult to perfect it is necessary to have the most complicated element of PU mastered - Balance.

For one, if you are using C&F as a technique, it becomes alot more complicated because you are displaying personality traits of someone that you are not normally accustomed to being. This is somehwere around the area of congruency. You shouldn't seem like you're trying too hard, or just throwing out lines, you want to seem natural and smooth about everything, which usually means cutting out alot of C&F. Don't let that be the standard that you're game is judged by if the rest of your personality is not congruent with you're techniques. A little bit of C&F is fine. A little bit more than that is probably all you need. And there is a thin line between all you need and way too much. Again, field experience and social calibration will make that line much clearer and allow you to find a better balance.

If you are a C&F» person, being that its not some lines you read on the computer or some explanation of a technique that you are implementing, then its usually much simpler and way easier to calibrate. When its just simply the way you interact with girls, its more or less just not overdoing the cocky part. Just keep it about 40% cocky, 60% funny and use it at will. And when it (and I use this term loosely) FEELS right, just ease up a lil bit to let the girl ACTUALLY connect to you. Other than that, its not too complicated.

Delivery, tonality, and body language are definitely important. But its not something you just have to focus on, it usually fixes itself with field experience and internalizing a few helpful beliefs(such as its normal for women to be attracted to you, and you're comfortable in sexual situations or with women in general).

The funniest thing about C&F is that while it seems to be a tool for breaking rapport and building attraction, it really cements solid rapport. Gunwitch has a term for this, its called rapport assumption. Regardless of whether or not the two of you have an actual rapport, its acting AS IF you alread did or as if she's seeking it. Having a C&F personality and interacting with a chick like that isnt something normal people do. They do that after having a friendship or being in some form of relationship for awhile when the two people are comfortable with each other and this behavior is acceptable.

You skip all that and just assume the behavior is already acceptable and act as if the connection is already there. And after a while, she takes on this frame and you've built rapport without seeking it. Then you move on to the "I feel like I've always known you" or "I barely know you, but I feel so close to you" kind of thing.

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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

The Basics of Picking Up The Hottest Women

I see alot of posts lately, with guys wanting to know or teach how to pick up 9's and 10's and SHBs and all. Whatever. Guys like to attack the issue from a technique standpoint, when the technique never changes just because a girl is slightly more attractive than a few other attractive women. Its not ever really an issue of "what techniques do I use to get her, she's SUPER hot."

Its an issue of having your head together so that you wont let her looks take away from your game and having an understanding to work around logistical situations created by the fact that she's attractive and that effects most everyone else around her.

Anyway, I pulled something out of an old post of mine just to give a premise(take into account that this was now years ago).

"From dealing with women, I would say that their physical beauty, from head to toes is their most powerful weapon. The reason being that most men on the planet value a womans beauty and sexuality over anything else she can offer. A smaller percentage of guys actually value a females personality as much as he values her looks. And I think that for guys who have little to no opportunity to pull a very attractive women uses this as an excuse and a blanket to keep from acknowledging his own low value, so that percentage dramatically decreases. Then there are the very handfull who could care less about how attractive a woman is so long as she is attractive enough to lay and will suck a penis, cook dinner, and pay rent.

Most of the unattractive guys lie in the category of giving to much value of a woman based on her looks. Even guys who learn this stuff fall into the same category because they're core values havent changed. They still weigh a woman's value by her looks and to compensate they mask their low value with all of these techniques and learn some frame control and voila, theyre ready to handle the HB. No, they have a couple of new tricks and put some shiny new paint on the same old rugged house and so yes they are better off than before but still the same rugged low value house.

The guys who value personality as much as looks as well as the guys who just use women are in a completely different category. They're advantage is, they completely eliminate most of the influence» that a woman has. Without her looks, the HB who has probably been hot all her life has little left to fall on to stay in control of the interaction. While her socially perceived value may stay at a certain level, her value relative to you in a PERSONAL INTERACTION is lower than it would be with the average joe. This creates the premise that value is never fixed. It is perceived.

Most men value so very few traits in a woman, that women can spend all their time working on two or three aspects of themselves and have incredible success in a social environment. And I'll name three for you, physical beauty, social skills, and the ability to manipulate. Though most men may not value a womans ability to manipulate, womens attempts to manipulate can be thoroughly masked by her social skills. Its just like that. Do you think most men really enjoy going around buying girls gifts and getting nothing in return, doing favors for girls that would pay them no attention otherwise, buying fancy cars (and in my neighborhood, big rims), huge houses, and expensive clothes just to try and attract a beautiful woman? Hell no. Men do it because most of us are trained to think that these things are what attracts women and men want women. And while these things have value, they are very specific and will attract girls who value these particular articles more than other things(aka-gold diggers). Just like guys with well developed bodies and handsome faces are going to attract women who value that more than they value other things. Sure they'll attract the average well rounded female too, but any particular form of value is going to attract the type of woman who is more fixated with that value.

Having nice material possessions and a well developed body has value. Its evident in social settings that these guys have an automatic advantage at first, because they have obvious value due to their "possessions." But in a personal interaction, the perceived value of these things can increase or decrease based on how much the other person is actually interested in those things.

If you get where I'm coming from, value can come from everywhere, and the more positive traits that are associated with you, the more like you are going to have social value and the more like you are going to have value in a personal interaction. But the more you have of one specific type of value, the more you are going to attract women who are interested in only that type of value.

The same thing is true with personality. The guys with amazing personalities are going to be able to attract women who really value personality. The odd thing is that most women place high value on personality because they place high value on feeling emotions. Most guys with great personalities make girls FEEL. Good, bad, happy, sad, sexy, unattractive, horny, sexy, whatever. They elicit emotions from women and most women are drawn to that.

The PUA is trained to exploit that specific type of value above most everything else because this is the type of value that affects most women, regardless of their looks.

Its obvious as in theres no need to explain, that we need to perceived as having equal or higher value than the target to increase the amount of attraction and comfort in the target in a manner that is going to lead to sex. We have tons of techniques that increase our perceived value(DHV) or lower her perceived value (neg) while in a personal interaction. And these are fine. I'll even go so far to say that by DHV u arent trying to gain value(neediness). Its what high value people already do in a not so over-the-top way. They naturally change their perceived value to equal their inherent value. As long as you are coming from a place of value(as in you actually see yourself as valuable) then DHV is doing nothing more than being who you are. Its just that much harder to DHV when you actually need to feel validated.

Negging is also something high value people do(by the way, im not talkin about purely celebs or actors or anything, just people with social value in general) naturally. You just tend not to obviously notice value in other people when its something you are used having yourself. Most guys with nice cars dont even pay attention to guys with other nice cars. Its not even a big deal. He's probably more likely to notice if the other guy has scratches on his paint job. He's not overly trying to diminish the other guys value, its just what it is. Something he noticed. The difference between the techniques and simply just doing it is one can be incongruent while the other is just normal. I'll explain later.

Back to why guys have trouble with beautiful women. As long as you put alot of value in a womans physical beauty, you will not be able to naturally DHV or change or maintain your perceived value in the eyes of a beautiful woman. Why? Cuz you are doing it from a place where you already put her value above yours. So even though you might run the routines and recite the lines and c&f it to death, incongruency will set in. Your bl and your tonality and other things are going to seep in and naturally move your perceived value in her eyes closer to your inherent value. Simply, you're going to start doing the things you would normally do that would clash with the techniques you are using, aka incongruency.

What is actually beautiful about this, is all it takes to eliminate the incongruency is one simple thing. Its called normal. When something becomes normal, its perceived value in his eyes is lowered. When a guy is broke, money sound very enticing. When that guy is Bill Gates is that guy, money is just something he is used to. That doesnt make money less valuable, it just makes money less important to him because it is normal for him to have it and there is an abundancy of it. And there are some inconsistencies, some rich people have a desire to accumulate more money once they are rich. Its not unheard of. The thing is, that need for money is completely internal. Its up to them in their own mind to value money so much. They're already rich, they dont need more money anywhere near as much as a poor person.

Its almost the exact same with beautiful women. Most guys value beautiful women obviously because they value beauty, but they place so much value on beauty that they lower their own value in retrospect. The thing is, once you sleep with 10 or a 100 beautiful women. Beauty becomes NORMAL. The value that beautiful women have dramatically decreases in a personal interaction with you. Their social value doesnt move, they're still beautiful and their social skills have not changed. But in relation to you, their perceived value is lowered making it rather easy for you to DHV and maintain value in her eyes.

Another issue to be examined is Bladelaws example of him and Scarlett Johannsen at a party.

On 3/16/06, bladelaw wrote:

>Upon meeting Scarlett Johannsen, I neg,
>qualify, tease, make her
>laugh, and be the prize. In
>the span of 20 minutes, we
>just went from a 6 + 10, to an
>8 + 8. NOW I have a chance.
>
>But WAIT. It's only a matter
>of time before her managers
>start calling her with flights
>around the world, and I have
>to head back to my day job.
>The dynamic eventually reverts
>back to 6 + 10. Scarlett,
>having lost attraction, thanks
>me for an fun time. I go back
>to being a 5, and she back to
>a 9. She just can't validate
>giving that much time to me
>due to the small amount of
>value I add to her life.

Anytime you come in conflict with a womans social value, you run the risk of her choosing between you and her social status. We know how this goes. There are plenty of examples of ASD all throughout MASF. Thats enough proof that unless your ability to contribute to her social value is greater than what she risks losing, then she's not going to choose you. Thats why we get the approval of her friends then isolate when we want to escalate so her friends arent going to think any less of her or call her a slut. Its basically our way of avoiding conflict with her social value. On the other hand, theres probably plenty of celebrities that could just waltz right up to her, pat her on the ass, and have sex with her right in front of her friends and she wouldnt care because the potential social value that could be gained from the celebrity is more than enough to overshadow disdain from her friends. And even then, girls make it "okay" to do things normally looked down upon in certain situations. Her friends might even say that it was okay just because it was "xyz." Sometimes we dont have that luxury and opt with eliminating a need for her to choose. I tend to call that skill.

With scarletts situation though, theres a different way to go about that. Personally, i dont have the experience to say exactly what would work. I would reframe the hell out of everything and make it seem like she's chasing me and I'm the one who's really busy. And she's the one really trying to keep up with me and im not all that worried about it. I mean, whatever I can think of that I think would work, I might throw at her. The thing is, if I was used to this type of situation and this was normal, I would probably have no problem.

So, back to beautiful women.

When you say the easiest way to get a beautiful woman is to simply ignore the fact that she's beautiful its almost that simple. The thing is, just like the rich man who still "needs" more money, some guys get a beautiful woman and still "need" beautiful women.

The thing with most aspects of PU is there is always going to be thing present in every single element of what ever you do. BALANCE. Balance is finding the line between valuing her for being beautiful but it being normal enough to you that its not a big deal. Balance between the amount of attraction and the amount of comfort you need to lay a HB. Balance between how much you qualify and how much you validate the HB. Balance between how much you lead the interaction and how much you just vibe. The most powerful weapon we have in PU isnt confidence, or verbal skills, or anything else than you'll find in most posts or LRs, the most powerful weapon we have is the ability to find a balance that will lead us to the outcome we desire in any given situation.

Its talked about all the time. "Did I 'abc' enough? Did I 'xyz' too much? Was I too this? Was I not enough of that?" When the question is did my thoughts and values in relationship to my actions create the right balance to pull this chick. I mean its deeper than that, but its the beginning frame work. And if you want to be good, you have to be adaptable enough to realize that every situation and girl are going to require a different balance as well as having the ability to create that balance and produce a situation that is favorable to you."


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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

Challenging a woman... Its necessary to get from chump to PUA

Let me say, Im not the the greatest PUA ever. Im no mPUA or any kind of guru. I've met guys who dont know what mASF is and have never heard of a PUA who are better with women than I am.

That said, I've slept with plenty of women. Plenty of women have been in love with me, infatuated with me, excited or intrigued or engaged by me. Though Im not the best, I have success with women. Thank yall for being so interested, lol.

It appears to me that often in this Community, we tend to put too much emphasis on "what to do" with women, when we should be putting most of our emphasis on "who we are" and where our focus is.

I know, for almost every guy on the planet, it sounds SOOOO great to hear that you can get laid using a bunch of lines. Some of you have likely tried speed seduction. Its captivating to think that you can seduce a woman with just a handful of patterns. There are eleventy(lol) different methods out there and just as many gurus for learning how to seduce a woman. Theres even the advice that people in general give you. "Be yourself, be nice , be courteous, be a gentleman..." so on and so forth. There are so many options to choose when it comes to how you should approach women.

Ill tell you this, no matter what lines, patterns, methods/gurus, advice you use to try to attract women into your life, you can only "do" so much. At some point, who you are is going to show through. Whether that be 1st class chump, or the smoothest player around, who you are is going to begin to have much more control over what you do than your conscious mind can cover.

You can use all the material in the world, best routines and all, and even if yorue successful with that, you'll only become dependant on the material to work for you.

Now, dont get me wrong, there are plenty of things you can DO that can begin to change who you are. You can be sexual with women, and this in turn will give you opportunity to be more comfortable with being sexual. And that will lead to you making women feel more comfortable with you. Because women want a man who's not afraid of his sexuality, who's not afraid to express it around women, and who wants her in a sexual way.

Take that as a hint.

But since we're on the subject of what we can DO, I'll get to my point. A woman by nature(as in being trained by society) wil try to impose her will on any man at any given time. She's going to ask you to buy her drinks, buy her dinner, take her places, do favors for her, listen to all her problems... basically, she's going to ask you to drop your masculinity for awhile and serve her.

In and of themselves, these things arent necessarily bad. The problem is that most men have nothing going for themselves to attract a woman other than attempting to BUY her affection or sex with gifts and favors. We call that supplication. Its a definite no.

I know alot of you guys are brand new to pick up. I know even more of you are probably struggling or have always struggled with women. I know many of you have had little to no success with women. Thats fine. But I'm assuming since youve been here, youve been reading up, and doing a few approaches, maybe even have some basic skill when it comes to interacting with women.

And maybe Im taking it for granted that youre in the field approaching often, it can be difficult at first. Doesnt matter. Im sure you know women, hell you have a sister, a mom, a cousin, classmates, co-workers, something, so no one has any excuse why they cant do what Im about to tell you.

If you cant tell a woman no and then offer something that YOU want her to have, then you cant expect to sleep with a woman who tells you she wants a relationship(or money, or dinner, or dates, or a friend or whatever).

Plain and simple, YOU HAVE TO CHALLENGE WOMEN. If youre a pushover, if you supplicate, if you do all those things I listed earlier, if you give her only what she asks for and not what YOU want(and thats really what women want, a man that takes what he wants), then you will NEVER be successful with women.

I know the Community has a tendency to stress success with women as lays, but im not that shallow. I mean in the grander scheme of things, getting a gf, laying a girl, laying multiple women, having multiple relationships, having a woman that likes you for you and not what you can provide, or having women respect you in general. If you cant say no to the passing fickle whims that women have and follow up with telling her what YOU want her to have or hell, just what you want, success is impossible. Women simply do not respond to men who fall on their backs every time she says roll over.

So... what exactly do I want you to do to get this ingrained in your head?

I want you to tell 20 women, "No." I dont care if its your mom, your boss, your girlfriend(or wife, lol), whoever. And then, I want you to offer up a suggestion in return. And I want you to be a damn man about it. You dont have to be a jerk, or an ass, you can do it with a sense of humor. But what you wont do is do it timidly or be scared about it.

If a girl wants you to buy her a drink, tell her "No, but if she behaves you might give her a kiss on the cheek later."

If your mom asks you to help her with something, tell her "No, but ill get dad(or find you a boyfriend) to help you since I love you so much."

If a girl asks you for answers to a test or help with her homework tell her, "No, but if you cook me a nice dinner(or give me a nice back rub) I might let you be my studdy buddy(lol, yeah, im trying to set you up for some)."

Now I shouldnt have to spell everything out for you. Im sure alot of you guys are smart. If the options I gave you dont fit a particular situation, then COME UP WITH SOMETHING ON YOUR OWN. And depending on the situation, you dont want to be inappropriate. If its your mom, obviously you dont wanna be an ass and definitely not sexual. If its your boss, dont "not do" anything that would get you fired. If its youre wife(lol), just tell her ass no over and over. Use a little sense.

And in case you didnt notice, in a couple of those examples, I did something very special. Sure, no woman will respect a man that is push over and does every single thing she asks and is always afraid to disagree. Sure, women want a man thats not afraid to say whats on his mind, go after what he wants, and take it when he wants it. But also, women VALUE a man when they have to invest in him. A woman thats not willing to do even small things for you, will probably not be willing to sleep with you. Offer women the opportunity to show compliance, and offer a reward if they do. And that offer of a reward doesnt have to always be verbalized.

If you can do this with 20 women, this alone, I promise that seducing a woman will eventually become second nature. In essence, being talented with women is simply being the type of guy that you honestly want to be, while at the same time, being decisive about what you want, making her feel comfortable about having sex with you, and her investing in you, whether that be time, attention, cooking, back rubs, sex, whatever.

And if you can do this, than you can progress to where you want to be with women.


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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

Who you are, how you think, and what you want is more important than what you do.

I see alot of guys come through here with questions. Questions about women, questions about themselves, their lives and what not. Guys who need a sense of direction, who need some definition in their life. Guys who dont know how to get what they want, dont even know what they want, and dont know who they are.

Alot of these things just plain dont have simple answers. Even more, those answers usually cant come from other people. Sure people can tell you about who THEY are, and what THEY want, and the direction THEY take in life. And maybe, if you get lucky, you'll get a guy or two who can give you some tips on how to find that stuff on your own.

But thats really what it comes down to. You HAVE TO, you have no choice, but to do that yourself. Noone can tell you what you want or what youre looking for. At best, they can tell you how to start figuring that out and try to help you get there when you do.

(and this post started as a response to another guys question)

Click Here to read the thread.



So you say you cant find a worthwhile girl. Cant find a decent girlfriend, even a decent FB or two. You cant find a girl that youd want to keep around, yet you seem to have no short supply of women to chose from.

The first thing I have to ask you is not whats wrong with them(the women), but whats wrong with you?

Listen, as I was typing this, a girl asked me what I was doing. My reply was, "writing". Naturally she asks about what and I tell her the answer to a guys question. And instead of writing all out again, its much more genuine in the conversation. The road to solving alot of guys problems, afcs and puas alike begins in this conversation. That, and some of it is for humor.


Nashville Playboy: Soooo... when are you coming to visit

L Williams: let me think about it. what r u doing?

Nashville Playboy: im writing

L Williams: writing what

Nashville Playboy: the answer to this guys problem

L Williams: what guy

Nashville Playboy: this one. its not like you know him, lol

L Williams: what problem he got, maybe i can help

Nashville Playboy: lol, i doubt it, he's having women problems. Well, its not really women problems, its him

(and its not what it sounds like. Ill explain)

L Williams: well im a woman...im sure i can help him more than u can

Nashville Playboy: lol, youre not serious right

L Williams: y wouldnt i be

Nashville Playboy: well, if youre better with women than i am, then sure, maybe you can help him

L Williams: im not gay

Nashville Playboy: then what room do you have to say that you can help him

L Williams: because im a woman

Nashville Playboy: you can give him advice that would be suitable to you, not suitable to women in general

L Williams: isnt ur advice based on men in general

Nashville Playboy: well, i have to say this, the problems men have with women, they're easier to see when youve had the same problems and had to find solutions, especially when the problem isnt the women, its him

Nashville Playboy: he probably doesnt know himself well, he doesnt know what he wants, he doesnt have much direction because he doesnt know where he wants to go, and he needs to figure that out, and thats his main problem

L Williams: r u his friend

Nashville Playboy: i wouldnt say that

(Im not exactly feeling like explaining the concept of mASF here, lol)

Nashville Playboy: and after that, his next problem is I dont think he loves women. I mean, he's not gay at all. When a guy has no problem meeting women, getting phone numbers, etc, but cant find a girl that he likes, or a decent girlfriend, or even just something regular on the side because he doesnt WANT to keep her around, that sounds like its something in his mind keeping him from being able to fully appreciate a woman

Nashville Playboy: dont get me wrong, im not saying he should setlle at all. But if you want to find a woman that you can be happy with, you first have to realize that women are severly flawed. And not just women, guys too. People in general simply arent perfect and everyone will always have something about them that you dont like

Nashville Playboy: and as far as women go, you can either hate them for their flaws or love them in spite of them. they dont really give you too many options. And i think he pays too much attention to their flaws and not enough attention to their redeeming qualities.

Nashville Playboy: or in other words, theres not real love for what a woman is. And if you cant love women, you wont find one that youre satisfied with

L Williams: im sure it more complicated than that

Nashville Playboy: then youre surely wrong its that simple.

L Williams: ur entitled to ur opinion

Nashville Playboy: if you have no short supply of women to choose from and you cant find at least ONE that you dont mind having around, something is wrong with YOU. What is wrong with your mindset that you cant find something to appreciate in at least one person, not saying you have to marry her or even get in a serious relationship

L Williams: im not disagreeing to the point that something has to be wrong with the person, i just dont think it as simple as a mindset thing

Nashville Playboy: and why is that?

L Williams: because there are other factors that accept how u connect with people

Nashville Playboy: ok, keep goin

L Williams: thats all i got...u cant just tell urself to change, something happened to make u the way u are

Nashville Playboy: lol, i know that, but how you see things has just as much of an impact on who you are as the things that happen to you because things happen to EVERYONE. how choose to perceive those things affects what you do afterward, but your perception is still a choice.

Nashville Playboy: he can choose to focus on whats wrong with the women he meets or he can choose to focus on whats good in the women he meets, and that makes all the difference. AND he needs to figure out what hes looking for, whats acceptable to him, whats not acceptable to him, what he's attracted to, what he's looking for in the short and long term. Put that together and he can solve his own problem

L Williams: r u a therapist

Nashville Playboy: lol, ive had a lot of life in 23 years

L Williams: it cool that u look at everything in such simple terms but if things are really as simple as you think it is, there would be no problems

Nashville Playboy: thats not really that fair. You assume what i said is easy. The reason there are problems are because the solutions arent easy, not becuase the answers arent simple.

L Williams: u the one that said "its that simple"

Nashville Playboy: its not that theyre simple. Its because things like that, they are hard for people to do. People are lazy. They do the things theyve always done. The things theyve always been taught. They live the life theyve always lived. Its hard to change.

Nashville Playboy: It hurts to look at yourself, pick apart your problems and put in the effort to fix them. And its even tougher when fixing it doesnt happen overnight. Its easier to accept everything as ok and be oblivious. And most people take the easy route in life.

L Williams: (and ill leave out some of her personal business right here)...now sometimes still find it hard to connect in a relationship...that doesnt make me lazy or not wanting change...some things change you...u have to adapt to situations in different ways...sometimes people dont think that they way that u deal is how u are supposed to act

Nashville Playboy: Ahhh, I see.

(Again, I edited out some of her personal business)

L Williams: im just saying u can make generalizations like u are doing right now

Nashville Playboy: Well, thats another thing, everything wont fit everyone all the time. Been there done that.Well, unlike in math, in life, there is probably always more than one "right" answer to a question. And although im making a generalization, with him, im probably right. That doesnt necessarily account for everyone. I dont take that for granted either. Its just impossible to account for everyone.

Nashville Playboy: Like in your situation, i cant argue that what happens to you doesnt shape you as much as how you percieve things, at least not in that particular example. And connecting with people, a real genuine connection, that gets to be more complicated than just being able to accept someone. And dont let me pretend i know where youre coming from cuz i dont(again, her issues). I dont identify with it all. All I know is it sucks, it aint fair, and shit happens especailly to people that dont deserve it.



But in general, who you are, how you think, and what you want are SOOOO much more important than what you do. Tons of guys come here and fix their actions. They learn the routines, the lines, the material, the methods, but they never fix themselves. And so they improve but only so much. Then they continue to struggle.

Sure, they might get laid. But they struggle with meeting "good" women, keeping the women they want, problems with oneitis, problems with overcompensating for oneitis, intimacy (connection, rapport, trust) issues, and being happy in general. Some guys go looking for "that one girl" that will make them happy and solve all their problems. Some guys go drown themselves in loads of girls trying to fill some hole in them by filling some girls holes(lol, but im serious though).

And the truth is, you cant be happy with a woman... you simply cant find joy, happiness, and satisfaction with a woman(or women) until youre happy with yourself. Truly and honestly happy with yourself, or at least with the way youre improving yourself. And Im not talking about just getting better at PU. I mean being a better person. Being the type of guy that you actually want to be. Being able to stop putting on a charade or pretending to be a certain guy to make people happy, or to get laid, or so some chick loves you.

I mean genuine satisfaction with you who you are.

And then you have to love women. Not just love ass. I mean, REALLY love women. Love women for what they are. I know they can be fickly, self centered, emotionally unstable, biased, gold digging, menstrual cramp having, manipulative bitches. It happens. There are guys like that, lol.

But they can also be the sweetest, most genuine, loving, caring, passionate, sexy, intelligent things on Gods green Earth. And its not easy, but you have to learn to love the things that make them beautiful(not just on the outside, because looks mean nothing but a trophy and motivation to be sexual in the long run) in spite of their flaws.

Keep reading...

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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

Women and their Really Ridiculous Shit Tests

I still don't think I've come to the conclusion as to whether or not women honestly believe the crap that comes out of there mouths that they test guys with.

I mean, honestly... its SOOO ridiculous that they have to know they're full of crap.

But then I realize just how much ridiculous stuff passes my way from women. Younger women, older women, intelligent women, "not-so-intelligent" women, women I've just met, and women I've known for awhile... it gets to be so much stuff that I start thinking that maybe they do honestly believe the ridiculous things they say.

Somehow though, they've managed to backwards rationalize behavior that is by far illogical to the point of being ridiculous, and that from one man to another would be unacceptable, as being absolutely in line with reality. And even manage to convince themselves that even though its makes absolutely no sense, it makes sense.

This is the nature of a woman.

Unfortunately, you can really only hate them for it, or love them in spite of it, because in the realm of what we do here, you'll be confronted with it contstantly.

I'm confronted with it constantly. Its so evident in my dealings with women that I can barely see the tests anymore. Lately, I've been light years ahead of "how do I pass this shit test" because "crap" never really enters my reality.

And it comes from not taking women seriously at all. I mean, when they're upset, I care, when they're happy, I'm happy for them, but I don't get bent out of shape regardless of what they say or do. Almost never do I have to "think" what should I do because I've become so comfortable with myself that nothing they throw at me tempts me to "stop" being who I am, just so I can handle their tests.

You just can't let the things that women do shake you and who you are. You can't take the ridiculous things seriously, because if you do, even if you give the "right" answer, to some degree, you've already lost because the crap was ridiculous to begin with.

And I hate to use an online example, but its really not unlike the tests I get in real life... other than the exact words are right there and its all clear. No distortion.


NVP: You know, you be having all kinds of crazy mood swings girl.First it was "leave me the fuck alone", then it was "ready for commitment" or something, and today its "had an accidental crazy night"... what the hell you be doing over there? lol You have me cracking up. Of all your friends, I'm guessing you're the goofy one huh.


Girl: yea thats me...I'm a libra and i try to balance allot of things out...but yea I'm the realest but da goofiest...never the type to think I'm better than anyone and thats y people love me...imma cool girl that just loves to have fun


NVP: that cool. I love a girl with a sense of humor and doesn't have her nose up at everyone. And since you aren't the type to act like your better than everyone else... Wouldn't you just love to take me out to dinner?Lol. I know, I'm silly.But foreal though, you'd love to wouldnt you?

Girl: LOL...I THOUGHT IT WAS DA OTHA WAY AROUND...BUT MY ANSWER IS NO ANYWAYS... I DONT MEET ANYONE OFF MYSPACE OR ANY WEBSITE...AINT MY STYLE...NOW I'M OUT EVERYWHERE SO HOLLA AT ME WHEN U SEE ME....1 LUV!


(I'm laughin to myself here... never think you're better than anyone, but too good to meet someone from the internet even when they make you laugh and smile... aka snobby stuck up little girl, lol)


NVP: Well sunshine... I'm special. that why its not the other way around. Ok, really, I just wanted some food, lol. But since I'm nice, I'll treat you this one time. Whats your favorite thing to eat? BK, Mickey D's, Wendy's... long as its got a value menu, lol. I'm not sure if I like you enough to be spoiling you, especially since you don't wanna take me out to eat just because I'm talking to you on the computer.


Girl: ok...this conversation is now over...GOOD BYE! Keep checkin out my status!


(obviously, it was gonna be some crap bitchy status message that neither I nor anyone else cares about. Who cares. Anyway, here we go with the test to the test... either way, you're ridiculous and would have to do ALOT to earn some respect now)


NVP: You sure gave up on "never da type to think im better than anyone and dats y people love me" pretty fast, lol. I was just teasing you, lighten up sunshine.


Girl: hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!


The sad thing is... I dont make this stuff up. Even sadder, this is normal.

The saddest part is that because stuff like this is normal, I can rarely take women seriously.

The best part is... it makes women so much easier.

So just how ridiculous can girls get?

As I'm typing this, literally, I get a text message from a friend of mine who's something of a natural. And it reads, word for word:

"Met a girl at BP. Next thing u kno, she wanted to have phone sex lol. I said yeah, then she was doin it and I was watchin tv. Den she said 'oh shit, my fiances callin' lol"

And this is why I laugh until I cough a lung up on the floor. The things that women say and do and the ways they justify their behavior can't be taken seriously. Otherwise, you'll be the guy who calls his fiance in the middle of having phone sex(but since he wasnt participating... phone autostimulation) with the guy she met at BP.


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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

Horny Until Proven Innocent

Theres a phrase that suggests that a womans sexual preference and her general demeanor and social behavior are completely unrelated, or at least thats the gist of it.

I've heard it referred to as madonna/whore complex...

I call it... real life.

Honestly.

I meet women all the time who pretend to be soooo innocent. Not even seem, they are generally innocent in their behavior and thought processes.

And they're freaks. They love sex, even "slap my ass, pull my hair, and call me dirty".

How does this apply to you? So kind of you to ask.

Never at any point in any interaction with any woman should you ever be afraid to display some intent. Every woman at some point in time(usually all day long) WANTS TO BE DESIRED AS A WOMAN.

I'll break down what that means. How do you define a writer? By his literature. How do you define a musician? By his music. How do you define an artist? By his works. How do you define a woman?

By her sexuality.

It is far from counter-intuitive. There's no confusing outrageous social programming that can hide this simple fact.

Why am I telling you this? Man, you ask all the right questions.

One of the biggest issues men have in their interactions with women is that men are scared to express or even imply some sexual interest in a woman.

Yeah, we always see those drunk guys in bars slobbering all over some chick who shoots him down. That isn't the same thing. Thats just the guy making an ass out of himself.

Have you ever wondered why as a pick-up artist, you never see anyone else out doing daygame? Its an amazing realization isn't it? We are practically the only guys doing daygame. Everyone else is out doing their daily routine or WITH THEIR SOCIAL CIRCLE. No guys are really out there approaching women. You almost never see it.

Why?

Because men are afraid of women, men are afraid of expressing some sexual intent, men are afraid and insecure.

Women on the other hand, sexual creatures that they are, WANT TO BE DESIRED AS A WOMAN, even the most innocent and sweetest of girls. In fact, that is the only reason why a pickup artist is successful with women. Its not magic. Its not the lines. Its not gimmicks. Its the fact that women in general DESIRE MEN and feel a need to be sexually desired and possessed themselves.

Its practically every woman. A girl(who happens to have a serious long-term relationship with another girl) tells me, "I don't usually sleep with boys ever so this is weird for me..."

She's talking about wanting me...

Lol.

With that in mind, why would you EVER be uncomfortable with being sexual with a woman?

There is no good reason. Women want to be had.

Have at them.

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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

A Very Important Lesson About Living Life

What can you learn from Virginia Tech... and no I'm not plugging for them.

33 kids woke up one morning content with the fact that it was going to be just another day. Those 33 kids didnt get to chance to wake up another morning. Do you think if those kids had known a month ago that they were gonna die that week, they wouldve spent that month pounding out their days doing the same old thing? Probably living a life they didnt even want to live. Going to school to get a degree to do something they didnt even want to do. Putting what they want on hold to do the things things they were supposed to do.

This is gonna sound cold but, those kids are gone and as sad as that is, theres not a thing anyone can do about it. But I can guarantee that if they had known it was gonna happen, they would have lived life alot differently.

I know this sounds like some BS high school guidance counselor crap. Im not that guy. What I want to tell you is, you gotta start living your life like you wont always be here. Dont be the guy who's 70 yrs old, laying on his deathbed, looking back on his life, and cant honestly be satisfied with everything he's done. I want you guys to take a long hard look at yourselves. You have to start figuring out what you want. Not what other people tell you to want. Not what society tells you to want. Not what would make other people happy. Not what would just get you by or pay the bills, not what would give you a ton of money to get crap you dont want or need.

Figure out what you honestly want. From PU, from your women, from your life, and for yourself. And I want you to go after that. If you have to quit your job, if you have to work a crappy one, if you have to quit school, if you have to go to school, do it. If you have to piss off your parents, your friends, your gf, whatever, to do the things you honestly want, then they'll just have to be pissed off for awhile. Man, you guys have to start living for yourself and making your own way. And you cant waste time doing it because honestly, you dont know how much time you have.

And when you figure out what you want, and chase that regardless of what others do or say, you set an example for others and you'll be more satisfied with yourself and your life than any dollar sign, and HB, and amount of stuff, than anything can make you.

And when you learn to do what you want and make a way to be successful, you need to share that with success with others. And this way, not only do you change your life, you change the life of others.

Why is this important? Because this is being a leader. And I know you're probably getting tired of hearing it. I dont care. You need it.

We come here searching for the secret to get women. The right techniques, the right lines, the right methods, the right moves... we come here to learn how to do what we want. But that shouldnt apply only to women, that should apply to life. Alot of lesson learned from what we do here transfer over into other parts of our life. Its the same with being a leader. But when you learn to lead in every other aspect of your life, people naturally follow.

Women naturally follow.

Get off your ass, learn to live the life you want and show other people they can be happy doing the same, and having the woman that you want in your life will cease to become an issue. How to get rid of the women that you dont want, will.

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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

Dont Rely on Girls Chasing You... Go Get Them

I've been pouring through alot of old stuff I've written up. And by old, I mean, like years ago. And I came across something relevant to what Im seeing alot of now:

Guys wanting girls to chase them and trying to build their game around that.

And it happens from time to time. Occassionally, girls may approach you. And from time to time, yeah, you can get a girl to chase you into bed. But for the most part, girls dont chase until after theyve invested something important in you... like sex.

Relying on women chasing you to get laid is just being too lazy to step up to the plate and lead. Most women NEED to be led. Lead the conversation, lead them to bed, lead them into a relationship, lead them everywhere. Its a fundamental need that most women display because they simply dont have it in them to lead themselves AND be happy, at least for the most part.

Anyway, on the original material.


"Every girl simply isnt going to chase you, no matter how solid your game is, no matter how attracted or comfortable with you she is, no matter how strong your frame is. What I can say from my experience is that IF you can get a girl to chase you, then most of the work is done for you. I'm not just talkin about sex, but that, and relationships, and her doing anything she can to keep you from cooking to paying your bills to practically raping you while you try to go through your daily activities. And after the point she starts to chase you, it requires very little skill. Just some frame control and the ability to lead.

Another thing I have seen is, some girls literally will not chase you if there was a gun to the back of their head. Their form of chasing is equivalent to "God I want him, cant he see it? I went through all of this trouble: to make it so we're alone together; putting on this sexy underwear/not putting on any underwear with this skimpy outfit; got rid of my friends so he can do whatever he wants; throwing him all these signals and saying all of these sexual innuendos etc... WHEN IS HE GOING TO TAKE CHARGE?"

Some girls simply aren't going to lead you to the bedroom. For most of them, its not in their nature or ability. The extent of their "chasing" is simply sitting there putting up as little "resistance" as they think is possible, and this is regardless of anti-slut defense. Most girls simply can't take the responsibility of doing things to disarm their ASD, they can't take the responsibility of making the direct move that leads to sex, and they cant take the responsibility for leading and taking the initiative.

Anyonethat RELIES on girls doing any of these things is going to severely inconsistent. But a guy who is flexible enough to account for these issues regardless of who takes the responsibility of leading or even chasing is going to be very solid. Sometimes she will chase you all the way to the bed, hop on top of you, and take your penis from you. And thats great, some of us dream about every pick-up going that route. Most of the time though, if a girl is going to chase you, its only going to be to a point. You have to have the insight and ability to know when to stop trying to be chased and start leading directly toward an outcome. And alot of times, the most the girl is going to do is give you green lights at every intersection.

You want some easy consistency, learn to game through any situation where the girl wants to make it easy for you. You want to be good, learn to game through those situations as well as when she's not trying to make it easy for you. Know when to plow through... know when to play it cool.

One last thing, no situation is going to go the exact same as any other. No interaction is going to be you solely leading and her solely following. Solid game usually is not going to be 100% direct and 0% indirect or the other way around for that matter. There is always going to be some balance. Balance between the level of attraction and the level of comfort. Balance between the necessity to lead, and opportunity to let the interaction flow. Balance between having to qualify and having to validate. Whats more important than finding one straightforward way to game is to find a congruent pattern of action that leaves the interaction in your favor no matter what kind of balance is needed."

When women chase you, take advantage of the situation. When they dont, you step up and make it happen. Theres nothing wrong with, no supplication in, and nothing close to "chasing" in directing, leading, and pursuing women. It just depends on how you lead.


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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

I Love My Women

What most people wont teach you about PU is that its not ALL about getting ass, or getting girls, or even getting into relationships. Its not completely about building a skillset or perfecting your game.

PU is about balance.

Hard as it is to explain, possibly even harder to see, its always about finding a balance. And in the simplest sense, its about finding a balance in your life. A balance between molding your self into the person you want to be(a better description would be to grow) and building the type of lifestyle that you want for yourself.

But hey, I'm not going to preach to you. I know most guys come here solely to get laid. In actuality, this may not be all that they truly want, but this is where many guys set goals. So if youre wondering, "Hey, is NVP ever gonna explain to me how I can pull girls with this?" yes, yes I am. Just keep in mind, this isnt for everyone. Only for those who can accept it.

So I lied when I said Im not gonna preach to you, lol, but hell, learn a little bit about life that will lead you to success wherever you take it while learning how to pick up a woman at the same time.

I know alot of guys look up to "our" (as in the community's) gurus. In all fairness, though it may appear otherwise, I do the same. I can appreciate the ability of the guys who are the top. I can identify with Gunwitch. I can understand Juggler. I can appreciate Mystery. These and others have contributed alot to the community. And theres the age old argument, who's material is the best? I know, I know, but truth be told, the best material is simply what you can identify with. Solid material is solid. While they preach from different standpoints, theres many different ways to effectively paint the same picture.

But one reason I hold disdain for many "gurus" is that some teach that, "This is EVERYTHING that makes me successful with women. Follow this and you can become just as successful as I am." And not to pick on him, but I have to use Mystery as an example. Yeah you have the M3 model, and VAH, and all the workshops that he teaches, but dont think that he "teaches" everything that makes him successful. If you only master everything in his methodology, his material, his structure, and mimic his implementation, you'll never be as successful as he is nor as successful as you could be.

Mystery, Gunwitch, Juggler, etc... theyve all spent years... YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS... mastering some principles that you cant copy with material and structure alone. These guys have spent years simply learning to be comfortable around women. If you never make TRULY being comfortable with and around women a priority, you will never see the full potential of MM or any other method or material for that matter. It simply cant happen other than by choice or accident.

With that said, I'd like to tell you something about me that makes me successful(I know, I cant compete the with guys I mentioned, lol, but theyve got thousands of hours of field experience over me). Something that defines me long before I even begin an interaction, or isolate the chick, or even long after the close.

A major element in my success with women is that I love my women. I know youre thinking to yourself "this guy practices and teaches other guys how to get into bed with women, who is he to tell me I need to love women?"

Lol.

Im not saying Im in love with every chick I meet, or even that I love every woman that I keep around longer than one night. Im saying that in general, I love women. No hidden motives, no misleading guises, I honestly love women. I appreciate them, their physical beauty, their personalities, their quirks, their strong points and their flaws alike. And in this game, this is one of the few areas where balance plays little influence. To get really good, youre either going have to throroughly despise women because of their many flaws, or deeply love women in spite of them.

And Im not going to tell you or teaching you to hate women. Sure, being misogynistic can help you be a good player at times and help you find ways to take advantage of situations that will get a woman in bed. But it cant help you be a good leader at all. You can go through life lying to and misleading women, or punishing them for every flaw they have, or taking from them whatever it is you want. Honest truth, alot of women will accept it. But living like that is empty for most guys. You dont have to go that route to get girls if you dont want to.

And at the same time, most women NEED to be led. When it comes to men, sex, and relationships, women in general simply do not have it in themselves to lead an interaction in a manner that will benefit not only herself, but give the two of you what you want.

Many people debate over who's responsibility it is to lead. Alot of guys say that its not their job to take responsibility for her happiness. And thats true, you're only as responsible as you choose to be. But most guys want better quality and quantity in their choice of women. And again, if you want to step into the big leagues, to be good, youre going to have take alot of that responsibility away from her. You truly have to step up and lead. But you're only responsible as long as she follows.

If she constantly keeps things from moving the direction youre trying to take them and she's unhappy, you simply cant be held accountable for that. You cant cater to every woman who's too stubborn to do whats best for her. Women sabatoge themselves alot of the time, and thats not your fault. Now when YOU are the one who messes it up, theres no one to blame but you, and thats fine. You have to be comfortable with that. Its a part of being a great guy. Not necessarily a great PUA, but being a great and sincere person can help in making you a better pick-up artist.

I have women tell me how great I am. They tell me I'm wonderful. How I make such a difference in their life. How they're better off because they've met me. How theres nothing that makes them happier. My women love me. And if I never banged a new chick again, I wouldnt trade the feelings I get from pleasing my women and them pleasing me.

And I cant make anyone want this, but for me, its not ALWAYS about some ass. Sure I love some no strings attached fun at times just like any other guy. Then, at times, I want other things that women have to offer as well. And I know when you get better with women, sometimes its hard to view them as more than just cheap sex. I've been there. But at the same time, some women can give you great sex AND be great friends and turn into great relationships, and be great loves of your life. And there are times when this can make me 10 times happier than the hottest, or the freakiest, or the "whatever-it-is-iest that you can think of" girl can make me.

Despite what it may sound like, I am completely against supplication. The clearest way I can put that is, never do anything for a woman just because you think it will get you somewhere, or make her like you, or get her in bed with you. Thats not where I'm gpomg at all.

And I'm not talking in the realm of PU, but in how you treat women, and the things that you'll do for them, especially regardless of how they treat you. I wont sacrifice my dignity to get laid. I wont lose my self-respect just to make a girl happy to get her in bed. And that in itself is part of loving women. I have too much respect for myself to do that, sure. But I KNOW that women dont need that, its unhealthy for the both of us, and I cant lead them in the right direction by doing so.

You'd probably think that having beliefs like this would lead to having oneitis more often. But the exact opposite is true. I dont want anything from these women. Im not looking to take anything. Im not trying "to get" sex. Its more along the lines of giving. All I do is give give give. I give them something to smile about, to enjoy. I make things fun and interesting for them. I appreciate them and show them how to appreciate themselves. I add nothing but quality to their lives. And in asking nothing in return, they respond in kind.

They add more to my life. They give to me. They WANT to make me happy and do for me what I do for them. And thats in the nature of a woman who's being led. To follow in like fashion. And yes, this translates into sex. Alot of times, sex isnt something I have to convince a girl to give. Its something that the both of us share. I'm a sexual person, I'm comfortable with that, and she accepts it that plainly.

At the same time, I make her feel comfortable with being a sexual person, because she is. Women want to be accepted and want to be sexual at the same time, so I make that ok for her, which leads to her WANTING sex. Its not some goal that Im trying to get to, its a natural progression of the interaction between us.

Granted, I couldnt be so successful with women without the PU skills. But thats the way it works, everything has its place. But you cant focus only on the skills and never build any of the qualities that the skills emulate and hope to have the level of satisfaction that you want. Theres simply more to it than JUST the material. And so many guys run away from this because they're looking for a quick fix, they want the magic bullet. And you need to hear this,

There is none.

The material is what it is. It demonstrates whatever trait or principle it was designed to as the event arises or it handles the logistics of a situation. And then you need more than that to fill in the gaps that the material doesnt cover. And that goes back to my first point about balance.

Although I wish I could, I cant teach a guy to love women. Its a choice, a process, a lifestyle, that one person really cant train another to do. You have to choose that, work towards it, and cultivate it yourself. In the same manner that Juggler or Mystery cant "teach" how to be comfortable with women, its something you have to build.


Something just for yall right here...

I love my women, and they love me. And that leads me to more opportunity with more women than I have the time for.

I try never to let any situation, any woman, or anything about her take away from how comfortable I am with women(her), how comfortable I am with being sexual, and how comfortable I am with myself.

Even more, I lead women where I want to go, but not just to get what I want, but to the benefit of us both. And none of this could I do if I didnt truly appreciate women.


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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

Challenging a woman... Its necessary to be Great With Women

et me say, I'm not the the greatest PUA ever. Im no mPUA or any kind of guru. I've met guys who don't know what mASF is and have never heard of a PUA who are better with women than I am.

That said, I've slept with plenty of women. Plenty of women have been in love with me, infatuated with me, excited or intrigued or engaged by me. Though I''m not the best, I have success with women. Thank yall for being so interested, lol.

It appears to me that often in this Community, we tend to put too much emphasis on "what to do" with women, when we should be putting most of our emphasis on "who we are" and where our focus is.

I know, for almost every guy on the planet, it sounds SOOOO great to hear that you can get pull girls using a bunch of lines. Some of you have likely tried Speed Seduction. Its captivating to think that you can seduce a woman with just a handful of patterns. There are eleventy(lol) different methods out there and just as many gurus for learning how to seduce a woman. Theres even the advice that people in general give you. "Be yourself, be nice , be courteous, be a gentleman..." so on and so forth. There are so many options to choose when it comes to how you should approach women.

Ill tell you this, no matter what lines, patterns, methods/gurus, advice you use to try to attract women into your life, you can only "do" so much. At some point, who you are is going to show through. Whether that be 1st class chump, or the smoothest player around, who you are is going to begin to have much more control over what you do than your conscious mind can cover.

You can use all the material in the world, best routines and all, and even if you're successful with that, you'll only become dependent on the material to work for you.

Now, dont get me wrong, there are plenty of things you can DO that can begin to change who you are. You can be sexual with women, and this in turn will give you opportunity to be more comfortable with being sexual. And that will lead to you making women feel more comfortable with you. Because women want a man who's not afraid of his sexuality, who's not afraid to express it around women, and who wants her in a sexual way.

Take that as a hint.

But since we're on the subject of what we can DO, I'll get to my point. A woman by nature(as in being trained by society) will try to impose her will on any man at any given time. She's going to ask you to buy her drinks, buy her dinner, take her places, do favors for her, listen to all her problems... basically, she's going to ask you to drop your masculinity for awhile and serve her.

In and of themselves, these things aren't necessarily bad. The problem is that most men have nothing going for themselves to attract a woman other than attempting to BUY her affection or sex with gifts and favors. We call that supplication. Its a definite no.

I know alot of you guys are brand new to pick up. I know even more of you are probably struggling or have always struggled with women. I know many of you have had little to no success with women. Thats fine. But I'm assuming since you've been here, you've been reading up, and doing a few approaches, maybe even have some basic skill when it comes to interacting with women.

And maybe I'm taking it for granted that you're in the field approaching often, it can be difficult at first. Doesn't matter. I'm sure you know women, hell you have a sister, a mom, a cousin, classmates, co-workers, something, so no one has any excuse why they cant do what I'm about to tell you.

If you cant tell a woman no and then offer something that YOU want her to have, then you cant expect to sleep with a woman who tells you she wants a relationship(or money, or dinner, or dates, or a friend or whatever).

Plain and simple, YOU HAVE TO CHALLENGE WOMEN. If you're a pushover, if you supplicate, if you do all those things I listed earlier, if you give her only what she asks for and not what YOU want(and thats really what women want, a man that takes what he wants), then you will NEVER be successful with women.

I know the Community has a tendency to stress success with women as lays, but im not that shallow. I mean in the grander scheme of things, getting a gf, laying a girl, laying multiple women, having multiple relationships, having a woman that likes you for you and not what you can provide, or having women respect you in general. If you cant say no to the passing fickle whims that women have and follow up with telling her what YOU want her to have or hell, just what you want, success is impossible. Women simply do not respond to men who fall on their backs every time she says roll over.

So... what exactly do I want you to do to get this ingrained in your head?

I want you to tell 20 women, "No." I don't care if its your mom, your boss, your girlfriend(or wife, lol), whoever. And then, I want you to offer up a suggestion in return. And I want you to be a damn man about it. You don't have to be a jerk, or an ass, you can do it with a sense of humor. But what you wont do is do it timidly or be scared about it.

If a girl wants you to buy her a drink, tell her "No, but if she behaves you might give her a kiss on the cheek later."

If your mom asks you to help her with something, tell her "No, but ill get dad(or find you a boyfriend) to help you since I love you so much."

If a girl asks you for answers to a test or help with her homework tell her, "No, but if you cook me a nice dinner(or give me a nice back rub) I might let you be my study buddy(lol, yeah, i'm trying to set you up for some)."

Now I shouldn't have to spell everything out for you. I'm sure alot of you guys are smart. If the options I gave you don't fit a particular situation, then COME UP WITH SOMETHING ON YOUR OWN. And depending on the situation, you don't want to be inappropriate. If its your mom, obviously you don't wanna be an ass and definitely not sexual. If its your boss, don't "not do" anything that would get you fired. If its you're wife(lol), just tell her ass no over and over. Use a little sense.

And in case you didn't notice, in a couple of those examples, I did something very special. Sure, no woman will respect a man that is push over and does every single thing she asks and is always afraid to disagree. Sure, women want a man thats not afraid to say whats on his mind, go after what he wants, and take it when he wants it. But also, women VALUE a man when they have to invest in him. A woman thats not willing to do even small things for you, will probably not be willing to sleep with you. Offer women the opportunity to show compliance, and offer a reward if they do. And that offer of a reward doesn't have to always be verbalized.

If you can do this with 20 women, this alone, I promise that seducing a woman will eventually become second nature. In essence, being talented with women is simply being the type of guy that you honestly want to be, while at the same time, being decisive about what you want, making her feel comfortable about having sex with you, and her investing in you, whether that be time, attention, cooking, back rubs, sex, whatever.

And if you can do this, then you can progress to where you want to be with women.


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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If you're comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP

The Secret To EVERY Top Guys Success

In this community, we have a tendency to idolize the guys with inhumane success with women. Thats cool, I'm not knocking it. Its just like basketball, or football, or anything else where talent can be compared and it can become competitive. The guys with success are idolized.

But in no other "field" have I seen where regardless of your background, your past, your handicaps in the same area, your demographic, your race, or even your age, the admirers can at some point(even in a relatively short amount of time) have success in comparison of the guys they look up to.

No 30 yr old, balding, out of shape white guy is going to be the next Michael Jordan. No guy living in his moms basement(no offense) with zero baseball experience, money, or connections is gonna turn into the next A. Rod. Its not gonna happen. But here, we have the opportunity, even the privilege, to pick apart the best of the best at what they do, make it a part of ourselves, and turn our lives into whatever it is we want. And compared to the time MJ took just practicing his jump shot, and the time A.Rod spent swinging his bat, the time we spend learning PU until we're successful is just a drop in the bucket.

And so its become a continual habit of guys in the community to pick apart guys that are better than themselves, learn what makes them tick, and apply it to themselves to reach the same level.

Every guy wants to be Gunwitch. Every guy wants to be Mystery. Every guy wants to be Juggler. And to a lesser extent, guys want to be Style or Tyler Durden(other than Style being rediculously rich, I cant understand why guys would want to copy "can I get a female opinion on something"). With as much success as theyve had, I'll tell you now, I want to be all those guys rolled up into one(not in a gay way, lol).

But listen, I dont care if you're a "Guru" all the way down to clueless newb or worse, the things that make the greats great are the same things that make the chumps, well, chumps.

In what the PUAs give advice on, in what we get from our field experience, in what we see in naturals and others who have success, there are three categories that everything we learn about PU fall under. When it comes to women, they define how successful you are and how successful you can be, as well as how much of a chump you are and how long you will stay that way. If you take any one of these away from me, or even Razorjack, Gunwitch, Mystery, Juggler, Woodhaven, Dimitri(and I mention them for their methods), or anyone else, they're gonna be chumps just like the guys out there that we as a community tend to look down upon. I dont care what kind of guru or teacher you are, your own method, regardless of how many LRs it generates, wont get you girls without these things.

The three principles that everything we learn falls under are this: being comfortable with women, being comfortable with being sexual, and being comfortable with yourself.

I dont care how many routines you stack, how many lines you memorize, how much you read on good BL, how much you practice kino, or how many approaches you do every day. If what you're doing isn't adding to one of these three categories, then you're wasting your time and your not going to get any better until you start doing something else.

You can memorize every stage of MM, quote it word for word, go into the field and watch Mystery himself in action, point out what he's doing and never be able to have even a measurable amount of success if you're lacking in even one of those areas. If you're not comfortable being sexual, I promise, no matter what routine you throw at her, she's never going to go into a sexual state. How is she gonna want sex with a guy who doesn't even feel like being sexual is normal. I don care if you have a million lines to carry the convo to bed, the minute you run out or stop talking(or even mid sentence), something is going to give. You cant fake 100% of everything 100% of the time. You cant fill in all the blanks that your material doesnt cover. Its not gonna happen.

Guys think that if they fill their game with bells and whistles(material, peacocking, c/f, etc.) and never get their issues solved, that they can meet, lay, and keep the chicks in life that they really want. I'm telling you that no matter how much you change your actions, if you're not building those three principles at the same time, you'll never have more than surface success. For example, approach artists. I shouldn't even have to go further.

This stuff should actually be a given. Guys post on being "On" and being on autopilot, we sit here and pick apart Guru after Guru to see what makes him great, we question every guy that posts a LR to figure out what made it happen. Hell, if you haven't figured out that the most important part of what we do is comfort, then it doesn't matter what they tell you or what you learn from them. You wont have near as much success as them doing the same exact thing.

And when I say comfort, Im not talking about as part of rapport. Thats easy. Childs play game. What guy cant build a little comfort with a chick? I'm talking about the hard part, the ability for you to be completely comfortable yourself. Comfortable around women, comfortable enough to have a conversation with a woman, comfortable when the conversation dies, comfortable when she's shit testing you to hell and back and even when she's not, comfortable whether you're just caressing her or dragging her to the bed, comfortable when she up and admits she wants to fuck, or comfortable when she never even gives you a hint.

This is what it boils down to. Being comfortable. In your own skin. Being comfortable enough to not worry so much about making the right moves, thats the right move. Being comfortable with women, with being sexual, and with yourself. And it doesn't happen over night. Yes it takes alot work. You need field experience. You need to come here and read. You need to work on your frame. You need to do alot of things, but if you're spending time doing something thats not adding to those levels of comfort, you're wasting time, stagnating, and probably wondering why "this isn't working" or "I cant get better."

You hear how guys talk about, "I said everything right, i made all the right moves, but still got blown out." Saying everything right and making all the right moves aren't even close to everything you need to get the girl(even more, arent always necessary), especially when you're looking to net new girls all the time. HOW did you say everything that you said, HOW did you do everything that you did? Theres tons of girls that only need ONE HINT of a lack of comfort in those three areas before your shit is a wrap.

And this is the real inner game we search for as we get better at PU. This is the solid foundation that puts all our material together for us so that when we hit the field, "I'm on." And I'm not expecting every guy to have this handled. I dont have those areas mastered myself, but I know what I'm doing, I know where I need to work, and I'm working on improving those every time im doing anything. But if you aren't making progress in those areas, then you aren't making progress.

Again, guys come into the community wondering why they cant get laid, why their routines aren't working, why they get blown out by AMOGS, why loser AFCs have more women than them, but then, they aren't even comfortable enough being around women to JUST HAVE A NORMAL CONVERSATION. LOL, its a shame. And then when guys tell them they need to just learn how to sit there and talk to a girl about any random bs, they question the advice and wonder how that's going to help them get laid. If you're not comfortable enough with yourself and with women to have a normal conversation, you're definitely not going to have what it takes to get her into bed with you or more. Not gonna happen.

Guys get LJBFed by a girl and talk about how special she is, how different she is, how its not oneitis. We tell them to GFTOW and we're the bad guys. There must be something they can say/do to change her mind. LOL. What advice can we give you when a girl see's its obvious that you're not even remotely aware of the principles I'm talking about. You need to be working one being comfortable in general before you start worrying about what to do with a specific girl that basically said you cant have her. We know it, she knows it, and you're the only one who thinks the flaw is in the method/material/strategy, lol. Come on now.

We argue about why canned material doesn't work and why it does. Why direct/indirect is better. Why natural game is the only way to go. Other than the fact that at some point, you have to go direct(doesnt matter how you open cuz openers dont get you laid), none of that shit makes any difference. What matters is that nothing you say or do should take away from those three qualities. Nothing you say or do should ever hint a lack of any one of those qualities. I'm not saying that you have to be perfect every time, but what I'm saying is, the stronger you are in those areas, the less you "need" your material to work for you because you're going to be doing so many other things that send the right signals and say the right things that it hardly matters what you say.

Call it on. Call it tight inner game. Call it great method. Call it whatever you want when you see it, but it starts with those three. With everything we have here, guys can and do get better. But imagine how much time guys waste(myself included) looking for the right method, or great lines, or material or anything else when they dont even have these basic principles covered or even just im mind.

I've read and heard tons of stuff on fixing your inner game issues. And I also hear as well as provide the same old arguments from time to time. How will this make me better? How will this get me laid? How does this really help my inner game? Look at you're own experience. From you're first understanding of this community(or even further back to your first interest in women) until now. If you haven't grown in your success, theres money on the table saying you haven't grown in any of those areas. And for the guys who's lives have taken 360's, everything theyve done to get better can be summed up into one(or all) of those areas.

You can even be more specific. When your level of success with women rises or falls or just levels out, you were gaining or losing or simply not improving your level of comfort. Honestly, look back. I can see in myself the same thing.

"Why you dont suck at PU, YOU SUCK AT LIFE!" doesn't have anything to do with the idea that having your life together makes women attracted to you. There are all kinds of guys with money, expensive cars, great jobs, and huge houses dont get laid. There are tons of guys in debt, walking, jobless, and staying with their mom that do. But if you need to change anyone of those situations to feel more comfortable with yourself, its either going to take you changing your situation or changing the way you look at life before you can be successful with women in the long run.

Its not the money or the materials that make you or break you. Its you. Its how much you let that shit matter when you do or dont have it that can make you or break you. Its always about you. Women are always about you. Success is always about you. And you can make all that happen when you have your head together.

There are plenty of people who are going to teach you techniques, routines, lines, and methods to use to get laid. Thats fine, most guys who come here are going to need alot of that stuff. Not many guys are going to show you the best way to make use of all of that or how not to really rely on it. This is what makes the guys who a great at what they do, great at what they do.

I once told a guy that this these three simple things are the entire premise for being good with women, just not in so many words. And the way I put it, I dont think I could've made it simpler.

Damn near word for word:

"I've found that anything productive that we can learn in this community almost always fall under these three principles. Being comfortable with women, being comfortable with being sexual, and being comfortable with yourself. If you lack anyone of those, hell if me, or ijjjji, or TD, Mystery, or Gunwitch lack anyone of those, success with women isn't gonna happen.

But even more than that, they all feed off of each other. If you're lacking in one department, you can feel like you're not successful in life. Everything you do in regards to learning PU and getting good with women should fall under improving one of those three categories. If its not, then its time to start adding more to what you're doing or doing something else. Even in your life outside of this community, if your job, your school, your hobbies, your general life, if its not adding to how comfortable you are with yourself(including being happy), then you need to start making some changes.

You want the path to inner game? There you go. I've opened the doors for you, all you gotta do is walk the walk. And its not easy. Im not a master of having my life together. But I've found as long as I'm making progress in what I want to be doing, I'm far happier than any HB10 or any handful of money can make me. Your real inner-game."

Your real inner-game.

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Being successful with women is not about the lines you recite or the moves you make. Any loser can trick a woman into sleeping with him. That doesn't keep him from being a loser.

Its about who you are and where your focus is, not what you do. If youre comfortable with yourself, comfortable with women, and comfortable with being sexual, you ARE the kind of guy that is successful with women.

NVP